- I loved this festival when they first started a few years back - said my friend when I told her I plan to go there for the first time - But since the pandemic it’s been full of celebrities who are like, I’ve just awakened to the true nature of reality and now I’m gonna teach you all about it.
“Chop wood, carry water.” is a very good thing to remember for me in relation to this.
And, even though I haven’t been raised Christian (although I did go to church a few times with a childhood friend, and my dad told me lots of stories from all kinds of cultures and religions, including Christendom), I also find there’s a lot of good lessons around spiritual experiences like this hidden between the lines in the Bible.
PS. I, too, am grateful for having a very grounded spouse. 😆
Fascinating, are there any particular Bible stories relating to mystical experiences that stuck with you? I know there are as many interpretations of these as there are people, but the lesson I remember from my childhood was "this stuff happened to prophets and saints because they were Special People, that's how you know they were saints indeed.
The one I recently was thinking about was the story of Moses. Caveating with, like you say, there being as many interpretations as there are people. But I found it a good story that shows him coming back to his old world, a bit like the hero’s journey, to bring this message–of “I Am” (God)—that he received, to the people (still) stuck in playing life’s comedy.
But he comes back in a way not only shouting stuff about Being, but actively participates in peoples life and society to help them see the way. (Writing it down like that it sounds a bit grandiose, but I think the “saints” of old are no different than the people now.)
I believe that sharing the gift of looking beyond the veil is a beautiful thing. But it only works if it’s connected to a “chop-wood-carry-water” perspective. I.e., meeting people where they’re at.
Moses's story is also interesting in that he's initially quite reluctant to carry out his mission. He doesn't want to be the chosen one and would prefer someone else to step into his shoes - at least in the beginning.
Indeed, the refusal of the call. It's probably a key aspect of a hero's journey for a reason. The calling often also means lots of pain and hardship on the road ahead as well. It's no wonder we don't eagerly accept our calling with open arms right away.
Great piece. Hey there are people like layman pascal, Bruce alderman, and John vervaeke talking about building the structures needed to hold people through such experiences in a new type of religionless religion. They have an ongoing discussion about it on the integral stage podcast. They are thinking through all these aspects that can make a new type of religion. Also Brendan graham dempsey is writing about this stuff in his building a cathedral book and in emergentism. There are people out here working on this. You’re not alone.
“Chop wood, carry water.” is a very good thing to remember for me in relation to this.
And, even though I haven’t been raised Christian (although I did go to church a few times with a childhood friend, and my dad told me lots of stories from all kinds of cultures and religions, including Christendom), I also find there’s a lot of good lessons around spiritual experiences like this hidden between the lines in the Bible.
PS. I, too, am grateful for having a very grounded spouse. 😆
Fascinating, are there any particular Bible stories relating to mystical experiences that stuck with you? I know there are as many interpretations of these as there are people, but the lesson I remember from my childhood was "this stuff happened to prophets and saints because they were Special People, that's how you know they were saints indeed.
The one I recently was thinking about was the story of Moses. Caveating with, like you say, there being as many interpretations as there are people. But I found it a good story that shows him coming back to his old world, a bit like the hero’s journey, to bring this message–of “I Am” (God)—that he received, to the people (still) stuck in playing life’s comedy.
But he comes back in a way not only shouting stuff about Being, but actively participates in peoples life and society to help them see the way. (Writing it down like that it sounds a bit grandiose, but I think the “saints” of old are no different than the people now.)
I believe that sharing the gift of looking beyond the veil is a beautiful thing. But it only works if it’s connected to a “chop-wood-carry-water” perspective. I.e., meeting people where they’re at.
Moses's story is also interesting in that he's initially quite reluctant to carry out his mission. He doesn't want to be the chosen one and would prefer someone else to step into his shoes - at least in the beginning.
Indeed, the refusal of the call. It's probably a key aspect of a hero's journey for a reason. The calling often also means lots of pain and hardship on the road ahead as well. It's no wonder we don't eagerly accept our calling with open arms right away.
Great piece. Hey there are people like layman pascal, Bruce alderman, and John vervaeke talking about building the structures needed to hold people through such experiences in a new type of religionless religion. They have an ongoing discussion about it on the integral stage podcast. They are thinking through all these aspects that can make a new type of religion. Also Brendan graham dempsey is writing about this stuff in his building a cathedral book and in emergentism. There are people out here working on this. You’re not alone.
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